A proposal for a replacement for government

I feel finally ready to release this brain-child to the world.

The concept is simple - why not create a social network to replace government? Such a thing these days is badly needed but governments themselves are not very open to the idea of putting themselves out of business. No dubt wars will be fought before such things become reality - but it doesn't hurt to start thinking about this now.

With that, here follows the text of a document I have constructed on the idea. My hope is to some day implement a prototype for people to play with.

Sandy
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Micro Republics


A replacement for traditional government structures.

Introduction

With the rise of the World Wide Web, a powerful social force has been born. The legitimate function of government is the administration of justice, the protection of the weak and poor, and the protection of its people from external and internal enemies. It seems quite possible to create a social network for the administration of government that can far out-perform existing government frameworks and hopefully protect us all from usurpers and defrauders at the collective level.

The goal of such a system would be to disperse power as broadly as possible by soliciting the participation of the maximum number of people for short periods of time on specific tasks. By removing the cumbersome and abuse prone system of law generation by a legislative body and instead depositing the law into the conscience of randomly selected juries, the rules begin to truly reflect the beliefs of the people. By restricting jury participation to people that have met a minimum bar of qualifications, irresponsible and incompetent individuals are hopefully prevented from perverting the system over time.

Functional Elements of a Micro Republic

A truly natural government is one of the people, by the people and for the people. The essential functions of a government for a free people are really quite simple and are the same at all levels.

· Certification of:

o Documents

o Individuals

o Relationships between documents and individuals

· Storage of and access to public records

· Management of officer and jury selection

· Management of cases of dispute

· Management of credit and money

· Accountability for all members

· Administration of force where necessary

To maintain the government within its proper boundaries there must be in place checks and balances and accountability of each member to the republic and to each other. In this design, these checks are provided by lot selected juries.

Members of a micro republic must be people of integrity that can be relied upon to support the republic, administer justice fairly and respect the rights of others. Citizens of such a republic must meet a minimum bar of competency and interest, judged by a jury, to be accepted as such. The micro republic is designed to use the people often to perform government functions thus helping to keep them responsible and familiar with natural and common law practices.

Weaknesses of existing governmental systems

Most governments are merely systems of control administered by a minority of people over others. Students of Natural Law have attempted to improve this with the creation of republican forms of government using written laws and social contracts, division of powers and checks and balances to attempt to keep government inefficient and self regulating in order to protect the rights of its citizens.

The problems that seem to persist throughout history even in the best republics are:

· Corruption of the language and the law over time.

· Finding an equitable method of representation and suffrage.

· Judicial Sophistry also causing corruption of the law.

· Guaranteeing protection from foreign powers without growth or corruption.

· Long term containment of the size, cost and reach of government.

One aspect of government in general demonstrates why it tends to corrupt over time. That aspect is the inherent specialization of government management into the hands of a minority of people. The kinds of people that are attracted to government work are the power seeking and the lazy. Because the average citizen naturally has little interest in the workings government, over time, less and less of the people in government represent the real social fabric of the citizenry. In addition to this natural tendency, powerful interests, both internal and external, tend to attempt to grow and corrupt government in order to use it to their own ends. This process of attack from within and without uses the most advanced methods devised to corrupt the government and citizenry. Once achieved, the government becomes a powerful tool of the few over the many. Such processes typically span multiple generations and at first proceed at a pace so slow as to be imperceptible by the majority of citizens.

A possible solution

What is needed is broad participation of society in government operations at all times with a fully transparent process which tends to support knowledge of the principles of Natural Law and self government. The body that historically epitomizes the participation of the citizen in government affairs is the Jury.

Juries are difficult to corrupt because they are chosen by lot, only meet for a specific task and for a short period of time.

Juries are large enough (12 people) to represent a good spectrum of the society while being small enough to efficiently conduct the administration of justice.

Juries are selected by lot making them independent of bias and more likely to represent the average citizen’s perspectives.

Juries are composed of non-specialists who rely on common sense, existing documents and evidence to make judgments.

Juries are not as susceptible to bribes as are judges and other government agents because they do not derive their livelihood from doing government services, their services are restricted to that of a single case, and the duration of their work is of a very short period of time – ideally only a few weeks at most.

Juries cannot tolerate unclear and voluminous law or conflicting precedent cases and will instead tend to judge with more common sense than judges do.

The weakness of juries is their inexperience. However with proper tools available to the jurors via the micro republic’s web resources, they should be able to quickly look up pertinent law and cases relevant to their current case, making the process of rendering a consistent judgment attainable without too much effort in most cases.

Law on the other hand tends to corrupt over time with language and bulk and complexity despite strict requirements as to passage, form and publication. Under a jury, law becomes a recommendation rather than a mandate. A system of minimal written law where a jury has total power over the plaintiff, the defendant, and the law and precedent cases with accountability for their decision yields a more common sense administration of justice. Because juries over time will gain more relevant past cases to consult, it is expected that a more stable system of government will also result over time.

Bad juries can only affect one case. The offending jury can itself be held responsible for its actions by another jury should this become necessary.

Any citizen can virtually call a jury to analyze a complaint at very little cost. The plaintiff can however be judged guilty by the jury should the complaint be frivolous or harassing in nature.

By holding jurors subject to being brought before another jury should their decision be irresponsible, all parties involved are held accountable.

Such a system removes the unjust powers of the written law and the legislator and holds it in check to the spirit of truth as seen by the jury for the case.

With the process of selecting and calling a jury well understood and automated, it becomes an easy affair to apply the jury to all kinds of jobs requiring judgment that used to be performed by elected or appointed officials. The people empower and call the jury and the jury moves the republic one step at a time.

Republic rules

The Micro Republic is a web based system of software that is open sourced and freely shared for any body politic to use as it sees fit. It is assumed that the system will be run within a VPN for security and that every precaution will be taken to ensure the integrity of the software and system components.

The basic unit of power is the jury which is called by the system whenever a plaintiff or the system itself requires one. The jury meets in a virtual sense and can often accomplish all its work without the need to physically meet. The system provides a secure form of communication via the website itself. Citizens can be notified by the system when changes happen that affect them or require their attention via email. Once the user has signed into the website he/she can then obtain what information is needed and perform communication in a secure manner.

Rules

The system consists of the following rules which it is encoded to enforce. These may be modified with newer versions of the software.

1. Micro-republics are established by a founder.

2. A critical number of users are necessary to create a quorum to create a jury.

3. Two witnesses who are citizens are necessary to validate all facts.

4. Citizens join the republic with jury review and approval.

5. All users must be verified as real by at least two existing.

6. All citizens must have on file a minimum amount biometric data (a photo, finger prints, eye scan, etc.) to uniquely identify them as unique physical human beings. Citizens meet a higher standard than users.

7. Potential jurors are citizens that meet founding document criteria for a juror and must be approved by a jury. Jurors meet a higher standard than citizens.

8. A founding jury may consist of founder approved verified users.

9. Verified users are users who’s identity information has been verified by two or more citizens or founder approved verified users and who’s email has been verified by the system.

10. Juries may be called automatically by the system or by any citizen of the micro-republic for any reason.

11. The founding jury creates the founding documents of the micro-republic.

12. The founder validates the initial quorum of users who thereafter validate each other.

13. The initial quorum of provisional citizens selects the founding jury.

14. The founding jury approves provisional non-jury citizens to become full citizens and full jurors.

15. Founding jury members do not become full citizens until approved by a non-founding jury.

16. All citizens must have a trail of validation that traces back to the founder. (no independent co-authorized subgroups are possible.)

17. Once a full jury of full jurors is established, the founder no longer holds any special powers. He simply remains the top nexus for validation of all members of the republic.

18. Juries hold all power over the case, plaintiff, defendant, precedent and the law.

19. There is no appeal to a jury judgment. All jury judgments are final for the case in question.

20. A defendant cannot be tried more than once for the same offense.

21. A jury may hold the plaintiff or defendant or both or neither guilty.

22. A jury is unlimited in what judgment and sentence is so determines.

23. A jury may bring to a case any extenuating evidence it so desires, even that not directly related to the specific charge. Anyone before a jury thus becomes fully accountable for their history and actions.

24. Compliance with jury judgments is voluntary but coercion for enforcement of those judgments can be accomplished by outlawry. While a person is under judgment of a jury he/she may not exercise the privileges of citizenship until that sentence is carried out and the jury releases that person from obligation status.

25. Any jury or member of a jury may be indicted by a plaintiff, defendant, or an agent of either for his/her/their judgment of a case. This kind of counter suit holds the jurors responsible for their decision but the counter suit cannot affect the outcome of the initial case in question.

26. A jury may require one or more public, physical meetings of the jury, plaintiff and defendant to collect evidence or pronounce a judgment and execute sentencing.

27. Any punishment is generally carried out immediately upon public dissemination of judgment.

28. A jury has at its disposal the entire wealth of the republic to enforce its decisions as necessary.

29. All jury pronouncements must be made public at the time of judgment of the case.

30. All jury proceedings are recorded and kept by the micro-republic.

31. All jury proceedings become public upon the pronouncement of a judgment but are private to the jury until such time.

32. No document ever having become public is destroyed. All public versions of a document are kept for the life of the republic and are open to searches and reading by all citizens of the republic.

33. No public document may be made private.

34. Documents may not be destroyed unless strictly private for the duration of their lifespan.

35. Only private documents may be encrypted for security.

36. All citizens must sign the entrance contract established by the founding documents and approve of all founding documents at the time of joining.

37. Founding documents can only be changed by jury approval but the changes are only binding on citizens that have ratified those changes. Thus, multiple versions of the founding documents may apply to different persons. Changing founding documents is highly discouraged by this policy. It is thus critical that founding documents be well thought out and only contain basic philosophical ideas that hold the republic on its desired course. It may be better to start a new republic than to change its founding documents unless full ratification can be achieved.

38. Personal identification information is never removed from the system so that new members cannot be separated from past membership history.

39. Citizens may leave the republic at any time provided they are not under judgment of a jury or exercising the duties of a juror

40. Rejoining a republic requires the same approval steps as required for a new member.

41. Ambassadors cannot be jurors.

42. Foreign Ambassadors cannot exercise the rights of a full citizen of the micro republic.

43. A non-citizen (jurors are also citizens) can only read and search globally public documents.

44. Only owners or persons assigned by the owner can view private documents.

45. Citizens are free to transfer credits between each other.

46. Credits are created by the republic and are never destroyed.

47. Credits are created as payment for jury duties only. Thus the only tax on the republic is inflation of these credits.

Persons

A person is a living breathing human being with the single exception of the republic persona which represents the entire micro republic. Persons have the following information associated with them:

Name

The name is simply the way a person wishes to be addressed by the republic. It holds no legal identification value like the biometric data. It must be unique across all persons in the micro-republic.

ID

Each citizen is assigned a unique ID number which is determined at the time of first sign in. This number is used internally to associate persons with documents and other republic entities.

STatus

From a micro-republic point of view, a person is in one of the following states:

· Guest – when a person gives his email address to apply for citizenship in the micro-republic. This is obtained at initial sign-in. Guests generally only have access to globally public document.s

· Validated Guest – a Guest who’s email has been verified by the person clicking on a link sent to the email address of the account – the email address is proven to be legitimate.

· User – two or more citizens of the micro-republic have verified that the users biometric and address/contact information are correct and unique. Any citizen that renounces or is removed from citizen status revert s to a verified user which has non-citizen status.

· Founder – the status of the first person to sign into the micro-republic. There can only be one founder in the republic. All person validations in the republic must have a validation path back to the founder to have full citizen status whether or not the founder is still a citizen of the republic. The founder is also granted special permissions during the initial stages of republic formation until a sufficient number of citizens exist to man juries. After formation, the founder is only identified for the purposes of validating verification chains. This state is in addition to other states and acts more as a flag.

· Founding Citizen – a verified user who’s verification chain links to the founder and the founder has approved them for founding citizenship. This state is dropped once the republic leaves the formation state.

· Citizen – a Verified User who has been approved for citizenship by a non-founding jury.

· Juror – A Citizen who has been approved to serve as a potential Juror by a Jury or Founding Jury.

· Founding Juror – a founding citizen who has been selected to be a member of the founding jury.

· Ambassador – A Juror who has been approved for ambassadorship by a Jury. Ambassadors are members of multiple micro-republics or are Citizens of other nations that can act as representatives for the micro-republic. They are used to assist jurors in cross-republic negotiations and treaties. A federated form of government could be connected via ambassadors.

· Outlaw – Any Citizen that refuses to comply with any jury judgment against them obtains this status. Outlaws are not allowed access to the micro-republic’s services and are not protected by the laws of the republic. Credit usage is suspended for outlaws. All republic members are encouraged not to do any business with an outlaw. Outlaws may only be reinstated into the republic by a jury confirmation of submission to all judgments against them.

Office

Persons can be elected to an office by a Jury or by an open election, depending on the requirements of the office. Offices must conform to requirements of the founding documents which should define the duration, limits and requirements for the office. Offices should be few and of short duration if possible and should only be created where jury oversight is impossible.

Biometric Data

Biometric data consists of unique and comparable data derived from physical characteristics of a person. Biometric data must be verifiable to a person for the life of the person and impossible for another person to counterfeit. It must also be unique for every person including twins. It may consist of several different sets of data combined to meet these criteria.

Users must have on file biometric data (typically a fingerprint or eye scan) that uniquely proves them to be physically who they claim to be. Once biometric data is submitted to the micro-republic by a person it can never be changed or removed. Biometric data is saved for the life of the republic regardless of the status of the person.

If it is not possible to reliably produce unique biometric data for persons then there will be a heavy dependence upon the process of becoming a citizen to ensure adequate examination by real people to verify the person. In this case, the name or an assigned number becomes the unique identifier for each person.

In rare cases it may become necessary to update biometric data (ie loss of body parts that were used for verification) by the approval of a jury.

Profile

A person’s profile is any contact data or identification data the person wishes to make public to the republic.

Email address

This is the primary email address used to communicate with the person. It is used by the micro-republic for official notification and communication with the person. Citizens are responsible to this email address for legal purposes. All email is processed within the micro-republic system – normal SMTP email is not used by the micro-republic for official communications.

There is only one fictitious person in the micro republic representing the republic itself. Only Jury’s can act on behalf of the republic persona outside of standard processes which are hard coded into the system.



Documents

A document is simply a file of data held by the micro-republic. Documents are search-indexed, optionally encrypted and compressed for storage. Documents can me in many formats but generally follow HTML or plain text conventions.

Read Status

Documents may have a read status of private, public or global public. Documents that are public are read-only to all citizens of the republic. Documents that are global-public are read-only to any guest. Private documents can only be seen or changed by the owner. The owner may add access keys to persons allowed reading or writing of the document – these become document users but ownership is not changed. Ownership of a document may be transferred to another user by the owner.

Write Status

Same as read status but for write permissions. Documents with multiple person write access are collaborative.

Checked out status

If a document is checked out by a person for writing purposes, it cannot be written to by others even with write permissions.

Name

All documents must have a name unique among all documents owned by a person. The name of a document cannot be changed once the document is created and is used for reference by other objects of the micro-republic.

Author

The author is the name of the creator or original owner of the document. The author cannot be changed.

Owner

The owner is the person currently most-responsible for the document. It may change over time if necessary. Owners must have at least user citizenship status to create or take ownership of a document. Owners have permission to change changeable aspects of a document.

Type

Documents can have one of the following types assigned to them:

Memo – a simple document with no extra attributes associated with it.

Attestation – a document stating or certifying any fact. It must have verifications from at least two other citizens to hold legal status.

Place – a document holding a lat-long-altitude set of numbers describing an exact location on earth.

Deed – a document describing a piece of physical property on earth. It contains a list of place values listed in clock-wise-from-the-sky order delineating the boundary of a piece of property. Deeds must be properly attested and filed with the micro-republic for them to hold legal value. A deed is a specialized form of an Attestation.

Verification – an attestation that links a person with a document indicating that the person attests to the genuineness of the document. All documents used as evidence in a case require at least 2 verifications from different persons.

Founding – a document containing guidelines for juries written at the creation of the republic. Founding documents must be filed topically by the micro-republic. Founding documents become owned by the republic pseudo person and can only be changed by jury process. Founding documents do not carry authority with them except as enforced by juries.

Collection – a document referencing other documents – like a folder.

Case Collection – a forum document used to document the process of a jury case.

Communication - a document sent between persons of the micro-republic. This is the element that supports the micro-republic’s email system. Communications are generally private but may be used as evidence in a jury case but must be made public by the owner before such use is possible.

Profile – a document that holds data used to identify a person. Ambassadors can use their person document to copy their attributes to other micro-republics.

Backup – a document that is an encrypted and compressed copy of the entire micro-republic including source code and documents. Backups can be created by any citizen of the republic and can be compared with other backups or with the current state of the republic. Differences can be analyzed to detect tampering of the republic. The republic automatically creates backups and compares them periodically to detect tampering. A tampered republic issues a priority 1 warning to all citizens of the republic and indicates a security breach in the republic. Backups can be partial or whole.

Snapshot – a document that is a smaller version of a backup. This cannot be used to restore a republic’s data state but it can be used to compare with other snapshots or backups to detect tampering. Snapshots can be partial or complete.

Lot – a document generated by the system using the precise (to the millisecond) time of generation and a standard algorithm to select a random number from a given set of bounds. This selection method is used to select jurors for the jury pool of the republic. A lot is strictly deterministic based on the time of its calling.

Jury Selection - a document that takes a lot document and applies it to the jury pool in existence at the time of the lot to form a jury of 12 persons.

Election – a document that records all votes and aspects of an election for an office of the republic.

Solicitation – a document used to request help from other citizens for any purpose.

Jury Call – a document used to call and form a Jury.

Judgment – a document used by a jury to declare a judgment upon a person and to document the conformance of the judged party to the requirements of the judgment.

Group – a document consisting of a collection of persons.

Image – a document that is a still image of something. The micro-republic supports the following formats: PNG, JPEG, GIF.

Video – mpeg1 and mpeg2 video files are supported.

Audio – mp3 files are supported.

Procedures

The micro republic has encoded within it the processing of the following described procedures.

1. Republic Creation

a. Founder Login

The first user to log onto a micro-republic automatically becomes the founder. The founding citizen is responsible for creation of the republic’s founding documents, for recruiting the founding members of the republic, and to assist the founding members to form a founding jury with co-authentication of each other to establish the lawful kernel of the micro-republic.

b. Founding Membership creation

Founding members can only join if invited by the founder via an email with a member signup key URL. A micro-republic must have at least 11 founding members and a founder to be created.

c. Founding Member Authentication

Once the founding members have joined the micro-republic they must authenticate each other so that there are at least two affidavits of authenticity for each member including the founding member. This allows for human verification of biometric and profile data of each member.

d. Founding Jury Creation

The founder then calls for the creation of the founding jury which then has the official business of creating the founding documents.

e. Founding Document Creation

The jury forms such founding documents as:

i. Core laws for republic operations IAW basic maxims of law.

ii. Core requirement documents for citizens and jurors to agree to in order to be accepted as citizens or potential jurors.

iii. Any other pertinent documents such as republic jurisdictions, land boundaries, etc.

f. Founding Member to Jury Citizen conversion

Once the business of the founding jury is completed including all members signing (and cross witnessing) the founding documents necessary to become a citizen and juror, all founding members and the founder are converted to non-founding normal citizens with appropriate rank (user, citizen or juror) based on what founding documents have been signed.

All citizens of the micro-republic must then ratify the founding documents by signing all of the documents created by the founding jury.

Every new citizen must ratify the founding documents by signing them, agreeing to be morally bound to follow the documents.

A republic is now born.

2. Jury Selection

Juries are created by the request of a plaintiff who must be a citizen or juror of the republic. Once requested, the system uses the date and exact time of the request along with the current eligible juror person pool to select jury members via a random yet deterministic process. This process is fully documented in the jury formation documents created for the called for case so that anyone can see that the process was done legitimately and it can be audited. Person pools can be reproduced at a later time using stored logs which become part of the republic’s permanent records.

Selected jurors are notified via email and must follow founding document procedures for processing the case.

3. Self Audit

Of critical importance is the ability of the micro-republic to audit itself. This involves a check of data logs to verify that all information in the database lines up with log entries and that all log entries and actions meet republic maxims. Audits use snapshots or backups to check activity between any two historical points in the republic. A self audit occurs at a frequency specified by the founder and amendable by any jury assigned with the task of updating founding documents. By design, all data in the database is linked with CRC checks with records and previous CRC checks to make tampering of data extremely difficult. The CRC checks create a gridlock that all data entries must conform to pass security checks.

4. Site Backup

A site backup can be made by any republic citizen and contains the ability to be applied to an un-initialized micro-republic website to create a copy of the original micro-republic including all persons and documents in the republic. The restored site will have a different unique serial number so members know it’s a copy. This is a way of protecting the republic from malicious attack by providing for frequent and dispersed copies of all records needed to recreate the republic should the need arise.

5. Site Snapshot

A site snapshot is similar to a backup but does not contain sufficient information for restoring the site. It is used for self or manual auditing and generally just includes key database CRC values.

6. Document Export

This is an encrypted export process used to transfer documents from one micro-republic to another. These are typically done by ambassadors for intra-republic business. It allows a secure method of cross republic document transfer.

7. Document Import

This is the complement function to a document export and is used to create documents for a micro-republic that came from another micro-republic or other outside source.

8. Case Initiation

A plaintiff can easily call for a jury to handle a case. The plaintiff creates a complaint document and this becomes the initiating element for the jury selection process to process the complaint. Juries can hold the plaintiff guilty for misrepresenting the facts or for frivolous jury calling. There may or may not be defendants in a case. All republic business is conducted by juries and must be started by case initiation.

9. Document Search

Full text searching of all public republic documents is inherent in the system and usable by citizens and jurors. Documents may have keywords associated with them for searching. Searches can also be filtered by various document attributes such as persons or types.

10. Person Search

Similar to a document search, all persons can be searched by biometric data or by profile data or by documents associated with them.

Suggestions

It is impractical for a republic to remain in existence for very long simply because it generates an ever increasing number of documents in its normal running. To keep the system from failure due to overload, it is suggested that periodically a new republic be created and members of the old republic join the new one and start over. The old republic remains intact for historical reasons and ambassadors can be used to bring needed documents forward to the new republic from the old.

The name republic is a misnomer due to the fact that this system shuns written law. Perhaps a better name can be found.

Principles In Liberty 58 - Reversing Roe v. Wade the Wrong Way

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Recorded on 5/24/2011

0:26 The Petition to reverse Roe v. Wade
0:55 Senator Watkins or something like that sent me the petition but I can't find him listed as a current senator. I did some diging and see that Rand Paul supports this petition as well!
1:10 Reading of the petition.
1:37 Ref: 14th Amendment

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.


3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.


5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

4:14 Citizenships - there are two.
4:31 Person is a red flag
6:10 The two hats congress wears
6:43 State citizen blog
8:45 Residence vs Domicile
9:19 Congress defines when life begins???
9:57 Without God's moral law, government becomes god.

I found out after recording this short podcast that Rand Paul supports this legislation. I could be mistaken in my interpretation of the 14th Amendment but I think not. It is sad that even our best reps don't really understand state vs federal citizenship.
Sandy

An open reply to Senator Mike Crapo

It's interesting how obliging our representatives can be.  If you have ever tried to contact your representative or senator you will most likely be given only one electronic means of communication - email via a web form.  Each time you wish to communicate with them, no matter how many times you have in the past, you will be required to give them your full address, phone number and name and sometimes more than that - every time.  There is no sign-up to be a regular correspondent with the person that is in office to represent YOU.
On top of that, if you ask them for a response, you will get one, canned, and without including the original email you sent - and you will have no record of your original correspondence (unless you take special pains to keep a copy that is) because it will never be included in your reply.  The reply is always general and will be from an email address you cannot reply to.
So, with my options very limited as to my ability to respond to my representatives response I give you my open response to Senator Crapo's (Idaho) response to my request to NOT extend the Patriot act which was recently before the Senate.
Here is the Senator's response in blue to my initial request which I have no record of because I had to send this on a web-form and did not save a copy.  My responses are in purple interspersed.  I will be referring to this post in my next correspondence with the Senator.

February 25, 2011

Mr.Sanford Staab

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Dear Sanford:

Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns regarding the PATRIOT Act. I appreciate knowing your thoughts and welcome the opportunity to respond.

As you may know, the PATRIOT Act was signed into law by former President Bush on October 26, 2001. Yes it was, under severe threats and panic over 911 which was used as the opportunity to slam through this pre-conceived legislation just for such a time.  Note that the text can be found here and is 271 pages long.  At the time representatives passed this legislation without having been able to even read the legislation.  Your statement above makes it sound like the Bush Administration made this law with prudent and informed deliberation - which was NOT the case (unless it had been planned and thought through long before the 911 incident) Since then, there has been a great deal of controversy about the provisions included in the Act and whether they infringe on individual civil liberties. My standard from the outset is the Constitution. If anything unconstitutional is in the Patriot Act, it should be immediately corrected. Sounds good Senator.  Here is the 4th amendment to the constitution:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Lets keep this text in mind as we read on...

On February 15, 2011, Congress reauthorized three controversial provisions of the PATRIOT Act that extend certain powers to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Specifically, the first provision grants the authority for FBI investigators to obtain a “roving wiretap” court order, which authorizes them to follow a target who switches phone numbers.

It appears that the evidence needed to violate the privacy of an individual is simply the fact that someone is changing phone numbers.  This is evidence of what crime?  What oath or affirmation is needed to ensure this is probable cause of a crime?  What is specifically being sought after with the wire-tap?

The second provision allows the court-ordered seizure of “any tangible thing” relevant to a terrorism investigation.

Seizure of property is covered in the constitution under the 5th Amendment:

No person shall ... be deprived of ... property, without due process of law;

The classification of terrorism is used to rob people of due process.  Court-ordered or not, seizure of ANY property before or without due process is clearly unconstitutional!  If law enforcement can just ask a judge for the right to seize property without the accused even being able to defend himself first then this cannot be considered due-process by any stretch of the reasonable imagination.

This includes a business’s customer records, diary or a computer. The final and most controversial provision allows the FBI to obtain a court order to wiretap a terrorism suspect who is not connected to any foreign terrorist group or foreign government. Known as the “lone wolf” provision, this authority has never been used by the FBI. Authorization for these provisions was extended through May 2011.

This is an explicit waving of due process and of evidence required specifically by the 5th amendment.  How whacked do things have to get to be considered unconstitutional by you sir!!!?

As you may know, these, and many provisions of the Patriot Act were not made permanent when they were created.

Oh so we can violate rights as long as we do them on a temporary basis?  What difference does the violation of rights make whether temporary or permanent?  Both are in clear violation of your oath of office and the purposes of government outlined in the Declaration of Independence.

Congress wisely included sunsets for these provisions.

So wise sir!  Because we don't know what we are doing, lets just be safe and make it temporary.  That does make sense since the original patriot act was passed with no time to even read the act much less deliberate it. But such knee-jerk panic acts by congress hardly makes them worthy of my support and trust. This provided Congress with the opportunity to conduct frequent and thorough oversight on these policies and to only reauthorize them and revise them as necessary, based on the actual evidence of how they had been implemented.

I understand the views expressed by you and other Idahoans about the possibility of the powers granted under the Patriot Act infringing on civil liberties. Its not just possible - its clear as blood. However, steps must be taken to restructure our government resources so that they are in the best possible position to detect, address, and prevent any future attacks on our country. The government's "resources" are my/our "resources".  The cost of 911 and all other terrorist attacks made on this country since then pale in comparison to the cost we have incurred due to government responses to these acts. 

• Suspension of all air flight for 90 days
• Entrance into a protracted war without any official declaration of either war or who the enemy is
• Imposition of unlawful search and seizure at every airport terminal
• Violation of the privacy of US citizens via email and phone tapping without any evidence of probable cause of any specific crime
• Imposition of a national police force in the form of homeland security
• Billions of dollars of cost in implementing these actions
• etc.

This can be done without sacrificing personal freedoms guaranteed in the Constitution.  We have already lost due process completely with the suspension of habeas corpus in "terrorism" cases.  This is so core to our freedoms that it becomes difficult to find anything left that we can call true freedom.  What is the definition of the legal term terrorist? (see U.S. Code Title 22, Ch.38, Para. 2656f(d)) Upon taking office, I, and every other Senator, must take an oath that states in part, “I solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” I am committed to fulfilling this oath.  Your rhetoric and actions contradict this IMHO.

The goal of protecting Americans’ physical safety where in the constitution does it grant the federal government the duty to protect individual citizen's physical safety at all - except to provide for the common defense?  Keep in mind the strict construction rules of the 10th amendmant.  And where in the hell does it grant the government the right to deprive citizens of their rights to "protect" them?  and protecting the rights and privileges we all enjoy need not be mutually exclusive. I am confident that the Patriot Act was created in a way

that serves its stated purpose, and that will leave law-abiding Americans with no reason to take personal concern for its actions.  Denial of due process to anyone should be of deep concern to every American sir.  If it can be denied to one, it can be denied to any and all.  This is the crux of the Declaration of Independence - that ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL in the eyes of the law.  We can't just classify some men as "terrorists" and thus make them unequal in rights without due process first. 

Again, thank you for contacting me. Please feel free to contact me in the future on this or other matters of interest to you. Will do senator. For more information about the issues before the U.S. Senate as well as news releases, photos, and other items of interest, please visit my Senate website, http://crapo.senate.gov.

Sincerely,

Mike Crapo

United States Senator

MDC:jb

It has been a pleasure to address this response in detail via this blog.  I will now send another web-form email to Senator Crapo referencing this post.  If I get any kind of cogent response, I will be sure to append it to this post for all to see.

Let me clarify that I don't consider Senator Crapo to be any worse than other senators or representatives we have these days in congress.  Almost without exception, every person in congress is either grossly ignorant of the law or they are so focused on keeping power that their consciences have been seared.

To save this nation will require representatives that are willing to die for liberty - because I believe that is what it will take to turn things around these days.

I truly appreciate the pressures both positive and negative that weigh upon our representatives, especially at the federal level.  But these people need to know that the cost of their compromise of truth and justice will have a penalty to be paid sometime in the future - and that penalty will be painful and my not be that far off in coming.

Something you could easily do, Senator Crapo, to make correspondence more open and useful to those you serve, would be to create a kind of specialized web forum where your constituents (and only your constituents) could openly express their views on a multitude of subjects with openness and organization.  I would suspect that opencongress.org would be most happy to help you in this regard and it would set a wonderful precedence as a great example of transparency in government so often touted these days by various officers of government.

Sincerely

Sanford Staab

Principles In Liberty 56

V76 - Galambos
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Recorded on 11/30/2010
Andrew J. Galambos

V76 Lectures
1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7

The V50 Lectures in written form are here.

00:37 I wont pay for the v50 lectures because I don't understand the Galambos trust - why even after he is dead his trust will not release the content of these lectures openly. I see no reason for Galambos to demand income from these lectures. (Note: Upon doing some research while publishing this post, I noticed that he does have his volitional science in paperback form - however it is indeed a rare and expensive book. (paperback only $400!  Note the book reviews on this - it may well be worth every penny!)  Upon reading the Wikipedia Biography of Galambos, it appears to me that he has only managed to attract attention from a very small minority of people.  There appears to be very little around on the net on Galambos)
01:00 Bonnie Lang published the V76 lectures free recently (well, make that in 2001). See links above.
01:26 Glambos is a political thinker who believes it is possible to create a society that doesn't use force.
01:45 Remember Spooner - a similar "anarchist" type, was also a Deist.
02:07 The secrets of this is locked up in the v50 lectures. (Either pay $125 for the mp3s or $400 for the paperback)
02:26 I was impressed with the V76 lectures.
2:35 Galambos is hard to listen to due to his pauses in his speaking.
02:50 My Summary of V76:
03:50 Paine's "Common Sense" was read by 1 in every 6 Americans.
04:24 Paine's "Crisis" was 13 letters used to inspire the volunteer army troops during the revolutionary war.
05:00 That war was totally voluntary - no taxes used.
05:41 Paine started as a corset maker, failed, became a tex collector, failed, got reinstated, failed again, left for America on advice from Ben Franklin and wrote for a Pensylvania magazine which he brought back from near collapse by writing all the articles under pseudo names. Paine wrote articles against slavery and for women's rights in that magazine.
06:30 Paine became a radical principled man. Paine was a Deist as it sounds like Glambos is as well.
06:50 Likely the confusion of the reformation turned people off and gave rise to Deism which dismisses many issues of religion - very close to unitarian thinking.
07:40 The goal of Paine to do good for the world in some ways shames many christians I know. Deists seem to care more about this world than Christian's do.
08:20 Glambos seems to feel the world (in the 50s) had less than a century left due to our WMD technology.
09:00 The would-be rulers of the world seem to care not about the world itself.
09:15 Glambos asserts that Paine wrote the initial version of the Declaration of Independence and that what ended up being used was a watered down version that came out of committee. Glambos gives pretty persuasive evidenct to support Paine's authorship of the Declaration of Independence.
10:20 Paine invented steel bridges and got involved in the French Revolution and narowly escaped a beheading in France.
10:50 Paine died a "pennyless wretch" as some have told me. But the reason he died this way was because he gave everything he had away and never took all the credit due him from his writings and inventions.
11:00 After his death, bad biographies appeared which tainted the name of Paine in history.
11:30 Glambos feels that Paine didn't go far enough and that we should have abolished government altogether. Glambos feels there is a sientific way to get to a force-free society and protect all property including intellecutal property without compulsion.
12:38 We live in an age of corruption. I don't yet accept the premise that there is a way to conduct society without the use of force.
13:05 Glambos' arguements remind me of the utopian communist view of the state withering away after the revolution. (He makes assertions without giving good example of exactly how a force-free society gets implemented.)
13:45 Why is Glambos's stuff not out there in written form? (It is, I was just a dope.)
14:00 Volitional Science SHOULD be able to be boiled down to a few pages of key points and spread efficiently around the world. (This I have not seen but I suspect Galambos' requirements for his students to sign NDA type agreements is why.)
14:44 Glambos points out that Paine had the ability to put ideas into a form that made things happen.
15:00 Glambos emphasizes that to get to freedom you don't fight tyrany. You fight FOR freedom.
15:45 I look forward to checking out the V50 lectures and relating that to you in a leter podcast. (I said I wouldn't buy them, but maybe I lied.  Maybe my curiosity will pry the money from my fingers.)
16:40 Government schools have taught us to be slaves.
17:25 Glambos loves Isaac Newton.
17:58 Lyndon LaRouche does NOT like Newton. An interesting conflict.
18:45 The logic of Newton allows reason to dump God. This sets the Deist up to take over. Add Darwin and we are done with God.
19:25 We are now in the post-modern Man-is-God position. But we are trying to move back.
20:20 closing remarks.

Principles In Liberty 55

Hot Cops

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Recorded on 10/9/2010

1:09 Glen Stoll's Texas Adventure
1:39 An incident in Lewiston with the cops on 10/1/2010.
2:30 Cops pull over a guy that parks in the Albertsons parking lot and block a lady parked next to the guy.
3:30 backup cops come and block more traffic.
3:58 People are scared to death as they maneuver around the cops.
4:22 Takes abour 45 minutes for the arrest to be completed.
4:35 I wanted to offer myself to the perp as a witness but was too indimidated to do so!
4:53 If I parked the way the cops did, I'd be getting a ticket myself.
5:42 The perp isn't bothering anybody and cooperates as much as he can.
6:00 Homeland Security == KGB, a totally unconstitutional national police force.
6:19 I was really insensed and wanted to call the Lewiston Police Dept, and find out more about this.
6:46 Later I went to a volunteer fire department meeting.
7:00 They just got a grant from Homeland Security
8:25 These grants are a backhanded method of forcing spending on what people don't support.
8:50 Taxes need to be made voluntary again.
9:00 This dovetails into Glen Stolls adventure in texas.
9:30 Gist: Glen Stoll doesn't cary plates for any state.
9:47 Why doesn't he have plates?
10:07 History of the Motor Vehicle Code - couldn't find any good links on this.
10:32 Horses didn't need plates way back when.
11:00 First automobiles didn't have plates or licenses either.
11:42 DOL is the center of insantiy.
12:13 I think the MVC was part of the UCC.
12:27 Motor Vehicle is a special commercial term. As is "driving", "operator", etc.
13:00 I haven't been able to confirm these ideas.
13:14 proof of ownership is the bill of sale. But I have to "register" this car with the state.
13:42 A title's legal construction is a trust. You and the government share title to the car.
14:21 Driver Licenses used to always be called "commercial" licenses.
14:46 Now all you see in WA is CDL - but now that is gone too. Idaho still shows its commercial.
15:26 I have tried to find clear evidence of this commercial scam but so far without success.
17:15 It is my contention that the lawyers have been hiding this commercial aspect of the MVC.
18:00 I've ordered some dictionaries that I hope to get online for comparitive use.

Here follows a transcript of Glen Stoll's Abatement written from his Jail Cell in Texas.

Memorandum of Fact, Agreement and Law
On or about Friday, April 16th, 2010, 10:30pm while on a missionary journey heading for interstate 10 from an assignment in Austin Texas, I was riding in the Church Ministry automobile with Michael Shurtteff, my fellow missionary behind the wheel.  Michael brought to my attention that there was an emergency behind us with lights flashing.  He pulled over for the vehicle to pass.  As the vehicle was taking a long time to pass, Michael said something like "maybe he's after me".  I said "how could that be?  You are always extra careful not to exceed the posted limit and the cruise control was set."  When Michael pulled completely over and stopped off the road with the vehicles still behind us, I said "maybe you were swerving a little and he thought you were drunk or something." 
The emergency vehicle driver who came to the window appeared to be a Texas state trooper.   He asked the usual questions about ID and expressed his displeasure about our faith as church resident citizens by saying things like "the kingdom of heaven is not here and now.  You can't be from the kingdom of heaven." and "The post offices don't allow general delivery anymore."  The last taunt was in connection with accusing ambassador Shurtteff of giving false information.  After being out of the automobile for a short time, ambassador Shurtteff returned long enough to tell me "looks like I'm under arrest".  Upon my asking what the charges are, one or both of them responded with "driving without a driver's license".  I asked something like "when did that ever become a crime?" Being a Church official myself and actively involved with the identification, registration, and licensing process, it is my understanding that he does have a current valid drivers license, whether or not he was able to present his DL to the trooper, I cannot say. 
Next the trooper asked me to get out of the automobile after first having told me to stay inside.  He then asked if I had any weapons on me. I told him that I had a pocket knife in my right front pocket that I would be glad to leave in the car.  He then began to display great agitation, barking out orders that were extremely confusing like "spread you legs" when they were already spread and "stop resisting" when I had no concious knowledge or intention of resisting.  I was attempting to be as cooporative with him as possible.  I am not accustomed to dealing with people who behave in such a rude, beligerent, and arrogant fashion and tone.  He was screaming at me at the top of his lungs and with a distorted voice.  I just froze.  The next thing I knew, I was down on the ground and he was riffling through my pockets.  He took everything out and returned my billfold but kept my church passport, my pocket knife, and my special herbal oil that I use for sinus injection and other healing purposes and annointing services.  At no time to I recall him ever asking me to identify myself or to show him my identification.  If he had, I'm sure I would remember becasue I am proud of my lord and savior Jesus Christ, and enjoy identifying myself as belonging to Him and Him alone.
On several occasions during this ordeal I asked the trooper something like "what are you doing?" and "What is it you want from me?"  The only answer I recal from him was to my question "Am I being arrested?" as he was helping me up from the ground.  His answer was "you are now".  I then asked "on what charge?" He said "for resiting arrest."  I said something like "how can I be arrested for resting arrest when I wasn't being arrested for anything in the first place?"  His response was, which he repeated once again as I was being taken away by Johnson City Police Officer David, "You were resisting arrest, search and transport".
Upon ariving at the Blanko County Jail, I said to the officer, "it appears we are both being arrested for preaching the gospel without a license" to which he said "this isn't the first time that has happened."  The officer did his processing and then locked us each in separate cells.  During processing, the officer asked for identification information.  I told him that the trooper had taken my church passport but that I had a church issued driver license if he would like to see that.  Since I have taken a spiritual vow of poverty, chastity, and obedience into a special sacred order of gospel ministry, as the scripture says, "all things have become new and old things have passed away to be remembered no more".  I explained the similarity to that of a monk of the Roman Catholic of which I am not, but with similar concepts.  The vow of poverty is that everything I had, have, and ever hope to have belongs to and is under exclusive control of Jesus Christ and his Church.  I am only a steward of anything in my posession and am answerable to the rest of the body of Christ for my faithful management of it on their behalf.  The vow of chastity means that I am never again to have intimate relations with the great whore or any of her harlots which are any of the systems of government of men that are "drunk with the wine of the wrath of her fornication" and the vow of obedience is to Jesus Christ and Him alone as a loyal minister of the Gospel and ruler in His kingdom.
Therefore as an agent in legal terms for managing certain temporal affairs as an ambassador in political terms being the Kingdom of Heaven to a lost and dying world, and as a minister in spritual terms, minister as unto the most high, even to men of low estate and submiting to every ordinance of man for the punishment of evil doers and the praise of them that do well.  Under the above mentioned vows, I have become civily dead, have expatriated from citizenship in a secular governement and have become exclusively church resident as a fellow citizen of the household of God.
Having said all that, this is how it is possible for me to not have a date of birth.  I have known several people whos date of birth is not the same as the actual day upon which they were born.  Some who have been adopted from other countries and another date was simply assigned to them, and some who were assigned a date of birth for legal purposes to be used to identify them as human resources and property of the secular state.
Since it is possible to have a date of birth that is not the same as the actual day upon which you were born, it is also possible to not have a "date of birth" at all if you are not a human resource and subject property of the state, which I am not, as explained above.  I have been bought and paid for with a price that of the shed blood of Jesus Christ, I cannot serve two masters.  I have expatriated according to the several laws of the United States and that of International Law.
I have not expratriated because I hate the United States of America, on the contrary, I love my country and I love the principles upon which the US of A was founded.  I have expatriated from the corupt, godless ,secular humanist, defacto United States that has overthrown and userped the authority of the original dejure US of A that was established in the fear of God and under the authority of Jesus Christ.
Again, I love my country, and my country is the kingdom of heaven that is within, on the face of all the earth, and my beloved home and native land, America. "Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty".  It is people like me, and those who respect or at least tolerate us that make America great.  It is people who have no respect for the things of God, or of the people of God like me, that have destroyed this great land.  Which of these are you?  As Alexis De Tocville said, "America will be great only as long as America is good".  He went on to say that by good he means "bible believing, God fearing, and Christian but also tolerating and respecting others who are not; but not letting them take over as they have because they do not tolerate or respect us, and will soon the entire nation, even those who claim to be Christian brothers against us.  What is happening to ambassador Shurtteff and me here in Johnson City, Texas is an example of the latter.
The above has been explained to some extent or another to many of the people here at the jail, including the Johnson City chief of police, several Blanko City deputies and others.  On Saturday afternoon, April 17th, 2010, we spoke with a magistrate - Bob Riley who was attempting to secure our release and that he would see us again that evening, but he never did.  I had explained to him that a deputy had attempted to take my fingerprints earlier but we agreed to wait and see what the magistrate had to say about taking fingerprints against my will, having already been subject to unlawful search and seizure, arrest, and incarceration.
The magistrate ruled that we would be released after he returned that evening, but only if they had my fingerprints first.  I confirmed that I would not give my fingerprints, believing it to be unlawful, but that I would not resist their unlawful taking of them.  Complete sets of my fingerprints have been taken about 5 times as of this writing, sunday late evening, with still no sign of seeing a magistrate, even though we have been told we would be seeing one on Saturday evening and several times on sunday.  Now we are being told that we will see a magistrate tomorrow, Monday April 19th, 2010, but who knows.
The Johnson City police chief told me that if I do not give them a date of birth, which I do not have, or tell him the actual day upon which I was born, that they will never release me.  I have repeatedly asked for "assistance of counsel" but have been refused.  The police chief that I would stay in here for  life without "assistance of counsel" unless I provided them with a date of brith and place of birth.  I told him that wont be very long then because I am on a spiritual fast without food or water until such time as I am released.
During one of the fingerprinting sessions, I mentioned to a young deputy sheriff that it is sure boring being locked up in total isolation all day and all night.  He said "its not supposed to be pleasant. That's why people wont to come back here."  I said, "I didn't want to come here in the first place."  He said, "then you should have obeyed the law."  When I sugested that I sounded like he wanted to see me punished without charges, trial, conviction, sentencing, or any other due process of law, he said, "that is exactly what you are in here for, punishment."  There has been casual meniton of several charges like "spending and altering government departments" in addition to what I have mentioned before, but neither of us have seen anything yet.
For the most part, except for the "aresting" state trooper, everyone here has been very curtious and respectful, except for keeping us caged up like animals for no good reason, and having us on survelience camera 24/7 being viewed by both men and women even while using the "open room policy" toilet with "gray bar" doors and narrow slits for windows.  So much for pastor Paul's theory about privacy in public toilets. However, this evening they have allowed us to take showers in our cell, and towels, and an orange uniform to put on.  Boy!  Did they get mad when I put my own clothing on.  I put their uniform on only as a curtisey to them in order to keep them from resorting to the physical violence they threatened against me if I did not comply against my will.
I asked the older of the two deputies if I could have some paper and a pen and he said, "you do something for us and we'll do something for you" so here it is, and I am wearing orange.  A very pleasant lady guard just came in and told me that it is 4AM.   They never let you know what time it is unless you ask and sometimes not even then.  I had no idea it was so late.  This should be enough for attaching to my foreign plea in abatement.  I would also like to get this to my lawyers and Pro Advocate Group that can be found on my website at more resources.
The forgoing is true, correct, and certain.  Materially complete and not misleading.
Signed at John City Jail, Texas, on this 19th day of April in the year of our Lord 2010.
Signed Glen Stoll, Ambassador of Jesus Christ.
Following this was Glen's last will and testament in case he should not leave the jail alive.

Principles in Liberty 54

Bob Bowman

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Recorded on 8/4/2010

01:22 Bowman Starts his inaugural address should he be elected president.
01:50 C: Democrats appeal to controlling corporate greed.
02:27 Bowman wants to follow the constitution - this is good.
03:00 C: What is a signing statement?
03:33 Repeal dictatorial powers of the president.
04:04 C: He's on a great roll!
05:15 C: Back to a paper ballot - right on - but the beginning of demagoguery is happening here.
06:36 C: Public funding of elections - how does this improve the electoral process?
07:43 Proportional representation and other changes to promote third parties.
08:00 C: Are two parties really the problem? Bastiat's the Law is ideal to explain Dr. Bowman's errors.
10:54 C: Are elections fixed at the federal level?
11:24 C: A political party is a private association. Government should not be involved in this at all.
13:30 Constitutional amendment proposed: Corporations are not "Persons".
14:00 C: This is a new one to me. Government already controls corporations. The Constitution isn't the appropriate place for this.
16:14 Media Reform: Reinstate the ban on ownership of multiple media outlets.
16:25 C: This is meddling in private property - this is unconstitutional. The FCC itself is unconstitutional. This guy is a socialist.
18:12 The key to ending fascism is separating big money from big power.
18:25 C: This is not possible. We must decentralize the power.
19:30 Indite the Bush administration for war crimes.
20:00 C: Right on Bob - this is what government should be doing.
21:00 I expect the military to refuse obeying illegal orders.
21:15 C: Danger Will Robinson! Not wise to order your troops to not obey you.
22:43 Duty to the constitution far outstrips other priorities.
23:00 Dual Citizenship should be done away with in government positions.
23:22 C: Right on Bob.
23:53 Never follow orders to participate in a war of aggression.
24:10 C: The soldier is not the one to decide the validity of a war. The people decide that via their reps in congress which is supposed to declare war before the executive commits troops.
26:29 Never follow orders to incarcerate citizens without charges.
26:40 C: Waco was the breaking of the Passe Comatatis Act. It needs to be reinstated.
27:24 911 is being used to take our rights. The 911 cover-up discussed.
30:00 C: So refreshing to hear the truth of 911 being talked about by a political candidate!
31:18 911 must be exposed or our wars will never stop.
32:19 Other cover-ups to deal with - Murders of female soldiers in the field.
32:48 Pat Tillman - sport start, war hero, conscientious objector, victim of murder in the field.
33:17 Levina Johnson case - tragic.
34:25 "A government the honors the truth must uncover the truth and then tell the truth"
34:35 C: Bobs best quote!
35:15 Government should reflect the values of its good people.
35:42 Real wages are 1/3 of what they were in the 1950s. Ordinary workers today would be making $1.2M/year.
36:22 C: He proposes minimum wage controls to fix the ecconomy. This is socialist and will not work.
37:50 Tariffs to keep jobs in the country.
38:00 C: I'm not sure about tariffs - seem necessary but is interference in international economy.
38:41 Limiting corporate executive income tax deduction.
39:13 C: Another socialist solution - tax incentives. The whole income tax is unconstitutional by its nature. Bob needs to understand this.
40:38: Executive order to require government contractors pay their workers a "living wage".
40:50 C: This is whacky. In the same breath he supports the constitution and supports a socialist solution via an unconstitutional vehicle - executive orders. "Congress shall make all laws" This makes Bob a dangerous guy.
43:15 Environment issues - skipped but in sum we should double the gas mileage of cars and trucks.
43:39 C: The government doesn't own the environment. The people (should) own the land. The proper fix is allodial titles of land to physical people and inheritable without taxes to the next generation.
45:20 Release all those detained without charge.
45:30 C: Totally correct Bob.
46:20 Do away with anti marijuana laws.
46:30 C: See Lysander Spooner’s work on the law and vice. But the executive branch is not the party to decide which laws to enforce. Congress needs to fix this. He should only not enforce laws that are unconstitutional - not what he doesn't like.
48:00 Using mercenaries is unconstitutional.
48:12 C: That's new to me. I don't know of any limits on hiring mercenaries in emergencies in the constitution. But let’s declare war first.
49:25 All contracts with mercenaries are canceled. Abolish Homeland Security Agency.
49:37 C: Right on Bob! Let's abolish all the agencies FDR created - they are all unconstitutional.
50:00 Wars of aggression. The US has no evidence against Osama Bin Ladin and we knew that Hussein did not have WMD because we put 150000 troops on the border in one location before attacking Iraq.
52:25 "The whole 'War on Terror' is phony from beginning to end"
52:28 C: Preach it brother!!!
52:35 The collateral damage of the wars discussed.
54:00 Bring the troops home while they are still alive. Stop using depleted uranium weapons. We must bear the cost of caring for our injured and poisoned soldiers.
54:54 C: The men all volunteered. I don't see a proper obligation to do legal plunder again to support veterans. Two wrongs don't make it right.
56:00 Globalization bottom line: Suspend NAFTA till Mexico reforms itself economically.
56:24 C: Not only is Bob socialist - he is dictating his socialist solutions to other countries. Whey not can NAFTA? Why just suspend it? Does he support the American Union? Bob can be used by the bad guys just as well as the neo-cons were used because he is a socialist.
58:00 Can the FED. States should form non-profit banks. Licence not-for-profit banks.
(Post Production Note: He want's to dump the FED but he respects the IRS which is the other side of the same coin.  Clearly Bob is confused.)
58:40 C: Right on Bob.
58:50 Close the School of the Americas
59:00 Abolish the CIA. Transfer the good analysts to other agencies.
60:00 C: This is not as simple as it seems.
1:01:00 These wars are part of a long bloody history of collonial policies. We are taking irreversable steps to return to a constitutional foreign policy.
1:02:07 C: Multinational corporations are tools used by good and bad guys. The bad guys have other tools. You won't fix this by destroying corporations or taxing them to death. We are against an international gang of thugs. All the governments need to wake up to how they are bing used by these gangsters otherwise we will be the target of all nations if we reform.
1:04:30 Recall forces from around the world. After 65 years the occupations of Germany and Japan will come to an end. Use Jimmy Carter to straighten out the Israelis.
1:05:00 C: We cannot solve Israel's problem. The governments should not be interfering with each other. This is right from Washington and Madison.
1:06:30 Suspend all financial assistance to Israel till they reform their government.
1:06:54 C: Why not cut financial assistance to all nations? It's all leagal plunder anyway.
1:07:20 We need to honor our treaties for disarmament.
1:07:17 C: This is a can of worms. These treaties were made with the UN who aren't really a legit government anyway. Hard to say these should be enforced. It’s also just not possible to remove nukes from the earth without a global police state to enforce it.
1:09:05 I am not likely to last long in this job. If I have a suicide be suspicious. They can kill me - but they can't kill what we started - its too late for that now.
1:10:10 C: That’s all for now.
1:10:30 My question to Bob live about using executive orders to enforce things. His answer.
1:12:15 Conclusions by me. Bob is a hero and a dangerous man.
1:14:18 The Law excerpt on false philanthropy.

Principles In Liberty 52 - Save A Patriot Fellowship

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Recorded on 7/9/2010

This episode is dedicated to CPAs and Tax Consultants that may not realize they could be misinforming their clients about the law regarding income tax.
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