Principles In Liberty 40

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Recorded on 5-22-2009
01:15 Tom Woods
01:20 Why we should be encouraged (and terrified).
02:12 Very Significant - we are starting to claw our way out of a system that has given us our leaders by propaganda
02:40 Questioning the 7th Grade Teacher syndrome - getting the genuine history.
04:07 In the 19th century people actually talked about money issues.
04:30 Starting in 1913 we were told to leave that to the experts.
05:36 The terms of the debate are predecided.
05:57 In comes Ron Paul and breaks the blocade of discussion.
06:52 We are starting to set the terms of the debate.
07:20 We are taking a bazooka to the issues concerning the FED
08:07 Good things happening: Bob Murphy
10:35 NYT refused to review the book Meltdown.
12:13 End the Fed - Ron Pauls book.
12:50 Non-book events: Judge Napolitano's
13:39 Light and truth just need a little crack to shine.
14:12 Ron's opponent in the primary: Trey Grayson - a drone.
15:45 Ludwig Von Mises Institute
16:30 Pope John Paul made it visible the difference in numbers from the governed and the govornors. We are numerous - at least 200000.
18:00 Ron Paul gets the credit.
18:45 The ecconomics sphere will never be the same. The Von Mises sphere is the fastest growing one.
20:24 At least we are going to put up a fight.
21:03 We don't have the luxury of listening to speaches and then going home. We know what is happening - we are under a special obligation.
21:57 Reading List to get up to speed
23:00 A prominent professor admitted he just chose the theory to teach based on the prevaling political thought with no research at all.
24:15 We need an array of talents working together to fix things.
24:54 Von Mises Quote!!!
26:00 Anthony Gregory - MC
26:10 Ron Paul is a giant in history. He started warning us back in the 1970s.
27:07 Rudi Juliani Debate
27:20 He took up a cause against the central bank and worned us and is now vindicated once again.
28:36 He not only was right but has exposed to us how many of us there are.
29:29 Ron Paul talks:
30:00 Thanks - this effort is starting to pay off.
30:14 Things are changing in washington - they know you're out there and they are starting to pay attention - numbers count.
31:07 HR 1207 is comming along with 127 co-sponsors.
31:40 The conditions are different now and we are getting peoples attention.
32:55 If you had not been active, it wouldn't have happened.
33:22 Economy is obviously a big issues - some good things comming out of the debate.
33:40 Contrast with 1929 crash - Kainsianism was just comming into vogue back then. Now Mises is comming into vogue. Who will get blamed?
34:48 This time we have the edge - they can't blame the gold standard this time.
35:21 Conditions are different than they have ever been in the history of the world.
36:45 I think we as a country will suffer more because we gained more in the bubble.
37:25 People in washington don't even blink an eye at a trillion $.
38:00 If they can bail out AIG, they can bail out California.
38:40 The FED is on its last legs.
38:56 The possibility of the FED self-destructing is real but we can't sit back and wait.
39:30 Civil War situation contrasted.
40:50 Currencies go quickly at the end
41:29 Even if we lost all our wealth but kept our liberty we would be back on our feet very soon.
41:54 What I would ask if I were president - repeal the income tax.
42:56 Cut overseas spending.
44:02 Democrats add spending, Republicans then gripe, then the Republicans pass their own spending increase.
44:53 The people are way ahead of the congress.
45:03 The war on drugs - its worthless - its a war on the people.
45:49 Even doctors prescribed drugs are horrible.
47:30 Prohibition - that needed an ammendment to do - why doesn't the war on drugs?
48:18 CA needs states rights. Maybe they would pay their own bills then.
48:48 Environment - the left understands the arguement for state rights.
49:46 Local government is best - but the opposition is pushing world government.
50:35 WTO wants to regulate drugs and food.
51:00 If there is a total collapse of the $ I think the people will just ignore washington.
52:00 The intellectual fight needs to be won - defend honest money, limited government.
52:30 Ex. Credit Card Bill = price fixing.
53:35 We have pretty good respect for freedom of religion but it doesn't translate to what we put in our bodies.
54:15 Hemp vs Raw Milk issue.
54:30 The philosophy of us taking care of ourselves and helping our friends freely should win.
55:00 Car company bailout issue
55:45 Cap and Trade - it will liquidate your wallet forever.
56:49 Young people are loosing confidence in all the spending.
58:00 Ron is seeing all kinds of people who already know about sound ecconomics.
59:20 Global warming - we have to answer these questions.
59:50 I have no hope in the prevailing bailout programs.
01:01:00 The War - is it legal? Is it moral? Does it do any good?
01:01:45 Mathew Alexander - How to break a terrorist.
01:03:15 I never go to secret meetings. You never learn a thing. All you hear is propaganda.
01:04:15 Policies don't change - but they talk about it all the time. Gauntanamo Bay.
01:05:45 The idea that we have to fight them there so we don't fight them here makes no sense.
01:06:00 We have lost 5000 more americans, displaced 2.5M people over 911 - we have not fixed a thing.
01:06:45 All we are doing is making it easier for them to get us - so said Sadam Hussein.
01:07:11 I am convinced that the bankruptcy will be comming.
01:07:38 Optimism comes from telling the truth, having transparency and letting people know where we stand.
01:08:12 On the contrary, if all we hear are lies - who can we believe?
01:09:00 The people are beginning to no longer believe what we (politicians) say.
01:09:55 What should you do? Do what you want to do. Work where you are gifted.
01:10:40 The rule of law is crucial.
01:12:00 Liberty provides self reliance and happiness in life.
01:12:50 Liberty is key and I am optimistic that we can work our way out of this.

Principles In Liberty 39

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Recorded on 5-22-2009
00:55 Booth Interviews: 1) The Free Enterprise Society: Paying wages in silver
03:12 Stranger in the hall 2) Liberty works radio network - 27M listeners
05:10 Libertarian Party: Small Debate about who's rights get protected
11:51 Audience Member 1: Involved in 2007. Got involved via an email from a friend., UTube,
12:52 Member 2: Used to be a "DC" apathetic libertarian till he heard Ron Paul. 20 Years Old.
13:42 Member 3: Theatre Student: "He told the truth" a surprising thing. "Probably the most truthful politician in American History."
14:40 Can the Republican Party be saved? A: Maybe. lindsey graham
16:04 Members 4&5: 2004 voted for Bush - raised a Republican, then I started thinking - things didn't make sense. 2008 candidates: all the same.
17:44 Peter Schiff. Stockpiling food. So. Carolina debate - Ron Paul stood out from the crowd.
18:57 Do you think Ron Paul's election was stolen? A: Yah. Now I think they just fight to be in power - there isn't a hope.
20:42 Jay Inslee was in a debate with Newt Gingrich.
21:20 Member 6: We need to get back to the constitution. Followed Ron since 1970s.
22:39 Member 7: Two young guys (maybe gay?) "If I thought Ron had a significant chance, I would for sure support him." "The reasons for the war didn't make sense and I think 911 was an inside job." The Shaw instilation had a blowback which Ron Paul predicted. "That man is telling the truth."
25:03 Do you think we have a chance? A: If this money does not help the ecconomy we will have severe inflation. More people will start to pay attention.
25:58 A lot of our politicians don't understand the conspiracy stuff but they are now begining to wake up to the need to audit the FED.
27:47 Member 8: Black Vet. age 34: Ron got my attention when I listened to his different views. I was shocked when I first heard him that he was able to carve a place in Washington.
29:07 Even though he thrashed his opponents in the debates the Media never gave him a fair chance.
29:36 Was the nomination stolen from him? A: I think yes. The primaries were taken from him.
30:25 It seems Obama's rise was a little too easy.
30:39 I would support Alan Keys and Synthia McKenny.
31:19 what was your take on the Iraq War? A: For me mostly boring, mostly a wast of taxpayer money.
32:08 Obviously the war was wrong.
32:38 Its obvious from the lack of investigations that its totally bogus.
33:18 Military Industrial Complex is why we are in that war and oil.
34:06 911 was an inside job. I kept an open mind but eventually I cought on.
34:41 There was a whitewash investigation - evidence removed, people who do investigate thend to get marginalized.
35:25 "American's are largely a compfortable people" I don't think that without 911 we would have woken up.
36:52 The information is definitely out there (with the internet) so they have no choice but to wake up.
38:10 My conclusions for this segment

An interesting video 38b

Simple but true. Jay Inslee is obviously the salesman in this story.

Principles In Liberty 38 - a visit with Jay Inslee

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Recorded on 5-10-2009
00:15 Intro
01:00 Jay sets the stage
01:38 My comments - The setup: socialist methodology right off the bat
02:16 Where does the federal govt. get jurisdiction over healthcare from the constitution?
02:50 Veterans picked first to hide behind
03:05 Healthcare question from the audience - will you do whatever Obama says? Audience cheers and boos
05:15 My comments: the maturity of the audience lets Jay play them like a pro.
06:00 Jays response - we will disagree, please don't boo
07:10 I don't rubber stamp anything
07:19 My comments - How many bills have you voted for without having read them besides the patriot act and the stimulus package? That is a rubber stamp.
08:18 Jay is not interested in our opinions - he didn't want my written questions. He is putting on a show.
09:20 Jay: "I represent the people I represent"
09:51 You want choice preserved - we will do that. You can keep what you have now.
10:56 We would make changes to the existing private insurance - no longer be able to deny coverage to certain persons.
12:05 My comments - This is interference in the right to privately contract - and is unconstitutional and socalist in nature.
13:44 The inability for insurance companies to discriminate forces them to become expensive and they will not be able to compete with the government system.
14:30 This is not fair competition - the government has taxes to back itself up while insurance companies don't.
15:35 Jay: 3rd: We subsidize the premiums of the poor.
16:06 Sandy: Subsidies are not free - them come from the people - this is theft.
17:10 Jay: Proposal of how to pay for subsidy: a) Efficiencies in the scale and technology of the system, b) More preventative health c) additional taxes on the rich. (over $250k/year)
18:43 Sandy: You are admitting you are a socialist and you don't care about the law.
19:12 Sandy: Look at how the income tax was sold as a tax on the rich.
20:11 Jay: The devil is in the details. There will be a big debate during the discussion. Obama want's every american to get the same coverage the congressmen get.
21:35 Sandy: This is backwards. Congressmen should get the same coverage as their constituents not the other way around.
22:23 Audience memger: What about single payer insurance?
"Single payer health insurance is a system by which the health care expenditures of an entire population are paid for through one source the Federal government or a subcontracting entity using tax revenue from individuals and employers."
23:50 Jay: We tried to get single payer system with Clinton but it failed to pass. It's a bridge too far. We need to go incrementally.
24:11 Sandy: Single payer coverage will destroy all private medical systems because there will be no way to compete with tax funded government services.
26:12 Progressive Caucus Audience member: Why have you not yet signed on to HR 676?
27:00 Jay: Not likely passable. If I could write poetry the bills would be different. My job is to make progress where it can be achieved.
27:44 Jay: Example: Cash for Clunkers bill. Comprimised on the voucher requirements and got it passed - beats doing nothing.
28:26 Jay: People are desperate for healthcare right now. Real people need healthcare now.
29:32 Sandy: Healthcare costs have gone up as government interference has increased. Healthcare is not static. It is bursting to break into a new paradigm but it can't do this under the present limitations imposed by the government and drug company interests.
32:14 Sandy: How can a centralized system encourage preventative medicine without controling the actions of everyone - telling each of us what to eat and when to exercies. Its total slavery.
33:11 Audience follow up Q: HR 1826 - Take corporations out of elections so we are properly represented.
33:40 Jay: Nobody tells your congressman how to vote. I support public campaign financing since 1994.
34:15 Sandy: Here's my suggestion for campaign reform: Make the districts smaller and have a larger house of representatives.
37:11 Ken Burra says the military does take care of its workers.
38:00 Jay: we have not been funding the VA adequately and is an embarrasment and has improved.
38:30 Sandy: When government funds healthcare there is no limit to its cost. Costs rise the more $ you throw at the problem.
39:30 Sandy: VA situation - We shouldn't have professional soldiers and standing armies. We have tons of problems that have risen from these policies.
40:00 Sandy: I support opposing the war but congress should have declared war instead of just allowing military use but no declaration of war.
41:00 Audience: Would you agree that we had good healthcare in the 60s? What about the HMO act of 1972? Didn't this cause the bills to go high?
42:00 Audience: How did the HMO act cause this change in medical care costs:
42:20 Jay: I don't understand what you are saying.
42:51 Jay's stab at an answer: "Not all HMOs are created evil." Better decisions about procedures will help. More preventative care. Need more evidence based medicine to improve decisions. We need better standards.
44:24 Sandy: This guys point is probably right. He is trying to solve the cause not slap on another solution.
44:45 Sandy: The techniquie of growing government: create a problem and offer your solution.
45:30 Sandy: Medicine is ready to explode in quality and efficiency if we can just be free.
46:13 Sandy: I have a Dr. that can do better and cheaper tests than an MRI but those methods are not accepted as "standard". The status quo doesn't want a paradigm shift.
47:00 Sandy: These experiments should be done at the state level.
47:30 Audience: Why do we have to have a job to have health insurance.
49:00 Jay: Single payer option - I want people to have a choice to use a government medical plan like medicare. The insurance companies don't want this because it will cost less and they will lose customers.
50:39 Sandy: Choice - to go outside the constitution. Government as a service is the begining of the end. Europe has this - a nice comfey box. People have different ideas and desires. Taxes for this purpose is theft as outlined in the communist manifesto. All you do when you steal is create pain and destroy wealth - it never solves problems. I am sorry for this guy stuck in the trap set by government.
53:43 Sandy: Ex: Microsoft health insurance for me cost the company $15k/year. I had no option to decline that coverage and take the cash because the HMO agreement is made in the whole. Individuals do not have the option to take or leave the coverage. If I denied myself the coverage it would still cost Microsoft $15k/year for me.
55:13 Jay: Budget and tax issues
56:00 Audience: Water flouridation - its bad for our health - I have 200 pages of documentation for you. I don't understand why we continue to flouridate the water.
57:00 Jay: My understanding is that it is a health benefit but I am open to new information. Lets take a budget or tax question.
57:20 Sandy: This audience member is missing the real point - the constitution does not grant the federal government the right to flouridate our water.
58:00 Audience: Sin tax suggestion: Lets tax cigarettes more. A use tax is more fair to fund these healthcare programs.
59:00 Jay: I support the idea.
59:30 Jay: We just passed a bill after 15 years of work, to allow the FDA to monitor and regulate tomacco.
59:50 Jay: Your idea may be good but you get to a level where increasing the taxes decreases revenues - but maybe thats good.
01:00:17 Audience: I'm concerned about the ecconomic situation - recless spending is going to have to be paid by future generations.
01:00:56 Jay: We are very much behind the eight ball on this. We do know we have to change the long-term fiscal condition of the country.
01:01:26 Jay: I voted for the stimulus bill that was not paid for. I thought it was the right decision due to the crisis at the moment. Had we not given the ecconomy a boost we might have seen what happened in the 30s.
01:02:30 Short term: I look forward to when we are not suporting the Iraq War. We have been paying for the war with borrowed money. "I always thought that was wrong frankly."
01:02:51 Jay: I voted against the original Iraq war. I thought if we were to fight this war, all of us should be engaged in it.
01:03:19 Sandy: What war? No war was declared. But thanks Jay for voting against it!
01:03:47 Jay: A huge part of the federal budget is healthcare. The rate of medical inflation has to be brought down. That is where the budget cancer is. Comparing the demographics we see even bigger problems here.
01:05:47 Jay: If you want to solve the deficit problem it will involve pain.
01:06:17 Audience: NAFTA - We've watched our jobs leave this country - shouldn't we take another look at this? Think about how much $ we have lost due to NAFTA. Lets go back and relook at NAFTA.
01:08:00 Jay: Obama addressed the truck issue. He has not said he wants to address NAFTA.
01:08:36 Jay: How about global warming - something fair to our manufacturers. Lets move on to other people now.
01:13:58 Bob Horn: Finincal Justice in America. The bank bailouts have left us with a financial oligarchy in place with no check on the bankers. (Loud Applause)
01:15:05 Jay: "So I guess there's not many oligarch's in the audience" (Laughter) Halalula to what you're saying. I voted against the original bailout bill. But there wasn't any real criteria on who would get the $ or any transparency. We don't even know where the money has gone.
01:15:15 Sandy: You voted against it but you cosponsored it . You JERK!!!
01:16:12 Jay: Explains why he voted against the stimulus bill that he sponsored. We weep in sympathy. We love you Jay.
01:18:55 Audience: We want transparency in government. HR 1207 - audit the FED.
01:20:00 Jay: My name will be on that by 10AM Tuesday morning.
01:20:19 Audience: Stimulus bill was missing some things. Get with me and explain retirement for single COBRA people.
01:22:20 Jay: for individual issues - contact my staff.
01:22:40 Audience: Social Security Tax Limit raising - why do we have a limit on how much SSN tax we pay?
01:23:40 Jay: "I favor a progressive tax system"
01:23:42 Sandy: Thanks Jay. See the third plank of the communist manifesto.
01:24:00 Jay: Talks about Obama moving for a more progressive imcome tax scale.
01:25:16 Sandy: Jay votes for theft.
01:28:10 Audience: Cap and Trade: CO2 and Climate connection has never been proven. (boos and cheers) Petition of 32,000+ scientists to make this point. You are being unfair and non-democratic not to listen to this side of the debate. (boos and cheers)
01:29:47 Jay: "Apparently people think we will have an applause meter."
01:30:11 Jay: Its really regetable that the debate about CO2 got tinged by politics.
01:30:57 I went to a NOAA ship about 3 months ago. They studied the ocean conditions off the coast. They looked at the acidity of the water. The ocean water is becomming much more acidic due to CO2. The oceans are 30% more acidic than before the industrial age. Nobody disputes these acidic conditions in the water. Some of those effects COULD be - suppressing life that creates calcium carbonate. If you cange the pH enough, you can percipitate it into a calcium carbonate structure. Note the Virgin Islands coral reef is dead due to the warming of the water and perhapse due to the pH change of the water. If you don't believe in global warming, think about this acidification issue. Salmon depond on planktion for their food. (applause)
01:35:47 So what do we do about it? When we think of this issue, we need to think of it as an ecconomic opportunity. We are in a race to create jobs for the future. We are now in a race with China to see who will build electric cars. Danes have wind turbines. Germans have surpassed us in solar energy. We need to look at this as a race to make America the leader in clean energy. I want to create the policies to help us create these jobs. This bill would level the playing field between the fossil fuel industries and the clean energies. The CO2 tax equalizes this playing field.
01:38:52 Sandy: comments
01:45:40 Audience: It feels like the taxpayers are almost like those movies with the slaves in the lower decks running the ship. If the workers stop - we are dead. Are the rich going to make sacrafices to keep the workers alive?
01:48:15 Jay: No. In congress I've learned about greed. Enron for example. We have poor people who can't pay their energy bills while your market manipulations make you millions? "You don't understand ecconomics." The executives must recognize the public interest. Now they are getting the benefit of taxpayer money they need to be more responsible.
01:50:28 Sandy: Jay is right. That with the government subsidizes - it controls.
01:52:04 Sandy: Example from highschool - the robber barons.
01:56:15 Jay: I am very disturbed about the education layoffs going on now.
01:56:21 Audience: Student loans - canned to save 94Billion
01:56:46 Jay: Yes I believe it has the capacity to increase available funds for student loans.
01:57:04 Audience: Credit rating agencies. Bonds for corporations and municipalites are different.
01:57:55 Jay: send me more info.
01:58:00 Jay: open floor
01:58:10 Audience: Grid systems for electric cars.
01:58:50 Jay: we can't use all the electrictiy we can produce without a better grid system. Backstop siteing authorities. Electric cars - we need them.
02:00:00 Jay: There are amazing advances in technology to enable electric cars. I'm glad I got $2Billion into the stimulus package to support electric cars.
02:00:30 Sandy: You're right but centralized methods of advancing progress are way to slow to keep up with technology changes. Besides, its against the law for the federal government to be involved in energy production - if you want this, support a constitutional emmendment and let 3/4 of the nation choose to turn this nation into a socialist state legally. Stop going around the law Jay!
02:04:04 Mary Whitmore: Social Security Tax Cap: The vast majority of americans pay on every $ they earn but to the top 1% it's just spare change. Its unfair.
02:05:00 I and Obama are looking for a more progressive tax system.
02:05:30 Audience: What is your position on term limits? What will happen to the Gitmo detainees?
02:06:15 Jay: I believe in the old fashion term limits - as long as they are doing a good job, let them stay. Not so for the president though.
02:06:55 Sandy: right on Jay!
02:07:00 Jay: Its important to the rest of the world that we not have Gitmo. The world want's us to be the leaders in democracy.
02:07:37 Sandy: Its a republic not a democracy.
02:08:30 Jay: We lost that special place in the eyes of the world. We lost touch with common sense due to fear and we didn't always follow the law.
02:08:53 Sandy: an amazing quote Jay. amazing.
02:09:25 Jay: Gitmo is a symbol of lawlessness - so its good to close Gitmo.
02:09:53 Tamera: Citizen Safety: Loss of Credit is putting a lot of people on the streets. Car accidents. Do you support our state Sovreignty? The people of the state dictating where our national guard goes to.
02:11:26 Jay: I support states doing what the constituion says which is to provide services to their state citizens as they see fit to provide.
02:11:56 Sandy: What constitution are you reading Jay?
02:12:36 Jay: I do not support state sovreignty to allow slavery in Georgia or the pole tax in Mississippi, or to refuse employment based on sexual gender. So there are individual rights that exceed the state's rights.
02:13:18 Sandy: I thought the question was clear. States do have the right to maintain their own militias and you have cleverly equated that with infringing on individual rights and then changed the subject - nice move Jay.
02:14:54 Audience: Are you familiar with everify? It matches a person's name with an SSN. Will you support everify?
02:16:08 Jay: Sounds worthy of my time. Having seen the multiple foulups in government databases I want to make sure it works.
02:17:41 Jay: Border patrol issue: we have significantly improved our border interdiction and it has been expensive to do.
02:18:26 Audience: Do you support union card check?
02:!8:50 Jay: I support us going back to how it was before 1974. I support choice in union participation. Law firms are stopping people from choosing to be in a union.
02:20:20 Audience: What about Nuclear Power?
02:21:16 Jay: Nuclear power has not blossomed in the last 25 years. But it is not because of Jame Fonda or Congress - it just costs too much money. Other methods are just easier with efficiency measures.
02:22:27 Jay: Congress in the last 20 years has tried to enhance nuclear power - we provided $ for research and free insurance to promot it. It is a potential part of our future - if the price comes down dramatically. Smaller plants that are more customized. We need standardized plants to bring down costs. We need a permanant disposal system.
02:24:29 Audience: If france is doing it why can't we?
02:24:43 Jay: France doesn't have a 10000 year solution for disposal.
02:25:03 Sandy: My comments on nuc power - over regulated but Jay has valid points. I think we have much better energy sources comming soon.
02:31:25 Audience: Obama wants us to step up to the plate. The government then sets the goals and asks us to help. How do we help?
02:32:25 Jay: The energy core and the service act helps local governments foster local volunteer activity.
02:33:22 Audience: Imigration debate: is covering up the issue of hireing skill labor from overseas.
02:33:59 Jay: There is ecconomic power in bringing in skilled people from other places. A huge benefit to US. We may lose companies like Microsoft if we don't bring the workers here. We want to identify which workers are necessary to bring in. I think we can improve this by: having more transparency and giving people more confidence that we aren't bringing in people to lower wages here.
02:36:17 Audience: How do you feel about our right to keep and bear arms? (applause)
02:36:35 Jay: "My son is a hunter and a fisherman." I support it for recreation and self defence purposes.
02:37:11 Audience: The guns are to stop the government.
02:37:33 Jay: There are reasonable things people can do to prevent people from being shot up. Convicted fellons should not have access to firearms. People should not fear that taking common sense actions like this threaten the rest of us.
02:39:14 Sandy: See the Pensylvania Minority Report for what the constitution means.
02:42:34 Jay: Thankyou. I hope you will look at this as a dialog. I get 1000 communications a week from my constituents.
02:43:26 Sandy: Closing comments. Use OpenCongress.org!

Principles in Liberty 37

Another talk with Steve Pidgeon
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Recorded on 5-8-2009

00:30 Intro01:26 What about this tea party thing steve?
02:06 I'd love to know all the bills my representative voted for that he could not have possibly read.
02:45 New news breaking: Move to change commerce clause case law. Judge Nipolitano
04:10 We are in the complete collapse of federalism.
07:43 The U.S. Government may be completely insolvent.
08:10 The FED system explained
12:00 CA is about to make more cuts to avoid insolvency.
13:50 CA should sue the USG for damages caused by the USG not enforcing its own laws (immigration).
16:00 CA Prop 18 - struck down by the USG.
17:40 What about the 1933 state government reorg Steve?
19:30 WA session - was it never properly admitted to the US as a state? The second WA constitution thing.
24:00 AK mineral rights taken but a fund exists to give back to the people a portion.
25:40 Obama is talking about cutting NASA, Defense, etc.
26:19 Pelosi stimulus package was the last 820 billion we had left.
27:30 Open market manipulation by the USG
29:00 The Asian flu (crash) - what really happened.
37:30 We are now ruralizing - growing food instead of manufacturing goods.
40:16 What about the ecconomic hit-men?
41:00 The absurdity of pledging eminent domain to China.
42:14 The 9 nations of north america
43:10 State Nukehood
43:30 UT could emerge strong due to the mormon church
45:00 The Katrina Belt will rise again.
25:26 France vs Spain - how France won.
46:30 Mineral rights still in Texas
47:20 Boeing may move to Texas
49:17 The republican's tried to hold themselves as being "Moral" and now they are falling by that standard.
51:00 "I am thankful that John McCain wasn't elected"
51:30 Quality Education is killing us.
52:00 New Saint Andrews College
56:30 The probelem with the Bar : Bernadine Dohrn
57:00 Same kind of problem in medicine.
58:00 Music too
01:04:20 Genius in the woods of Alaska
01:06:20 Shut your mouth day.
01:07:00 Law school expelations had to be stopped with the thread of a lawsuit.
01:08:30 Sandys vision for education
01:09:40 The instututions are failing.
01:10:00 Ex: The cure for cancer.
01:12:30 Specialization is rarely useful too early in life.
01:13:40 Integrity and character is what matters
01:15:05 Music is an example of a free market
01:15:40 The critical professional threshold of mastery is how credibility is gained - not by degrees from corrupt institutions/judges.
01:17:22 HR - another example - the first ones to go in bad times.
01:20:10 Moral law vs Choice
01:20:30 The Birthrate Law
01:21:00 Russia paid people to have kids - didn't work.
01:21:20 Russians go without food till they can afford what they want.
01:22:40 Russian Dachas
01:25:20 The two halves of the Koran
01:28:20 Griswold vs Connecticut opened the door to Roe vs Wade. Two concenting adults idea.
01:30:00 Short window to go from condemned homosexuality to full blown pagan culture.
01:31:30 Our moral reproach makes us a lawful target for extinction.01:32:20 Nazis as an example
01:33:20 The new manfactured H1N1 virus.
01:43:20 Vaccinations become another vector for the virus.
01:36:25 Obama blew off the national day of prayer.
01:37:40 Our immorality cannot be sustained. It will destroy us or we will change.
01:38:30 Some simple fixes - make the representative districts smaller
01:39:00 Make the giant counties smaller, especially ones that mix rural and urban centers.
01:40:05 Two tier representation
01:40:40 Pure democracy push is insane
01:41:00 Resource fight is lining up for WWIII - Islamic world is key which is why Obama is in the white house.
01:43:00 The muslim threat to europe - they should see it by now
01:44:15 From a public policy view - abortion must end.

Principles In Liberty 36

This episode is the full 4 hour recording of the Seattle Continental Congress Meeting held on April 8th at the University of Washington. Enjoy!
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Recorded on 4/8/2009
00:30 PreIntro
02:34 Intro and Prayer
04:41 Steve Pidgeon Intro of Bob
05:00 Constitution is in great danger: overview of where we are
05:45 Constitution is the only source of legit power for this out-of-control government
06:23 What can we do?
06:40 Must use lawful means
07:36 Self-proving rubrik of the truth.
07:57 Democratic components does not make a democracy
08:16 Bill of rights - first ammendment
08:53 Intro of Bob Schulz
09:40 Bob Schulz - pledge to the constitution.
10:15 Constitutional Quiz of the Audience
11:15 Declaration of Independence relationship to the Constitution
11:35 Doctrine of popular sovreignty.
12:15 Is the government violating the constitution? Audience participation.
12:44 Money clause
13:10 Article 5 - refuse to call an convention
13:45 Taxation clauses
14:00 Habeus Corpus
14:25 Free speech
14:31 Searches and seizures - police state
15:00 Commerce powers abused
15:17 War powers
15:50 Natural born citizen clause
16:19 Licensed mariages
16:30 Education, Healthcare work - not authorized
17:10 Money bills originate in house
17:30 Eminent domain, ownership of public lands
18:00 Ex: Bridgeport attempted to take land for private purposes from other private parties
19:10 Imigration
21:11 What can we do to correct this?
21:48 Is there an accountability clause?
23:00 Redress of grievences
23:35 5 freedoms guaranteed by the first ammendment.
25:40 Redress of grievence clause never ruled on by any court.
27:09 If govt. refuses to redress our grievences we have a right to withdraw out support.
27:30 Just try it. Individuals and small groups cannot withdraw successfully.
28:05 Gandhi example
29:15 MLK followed this example - proactive, nonviolent, mass movement, successful
29:40 Critical mass needed via Continental Congress to restore the constitution
30:30 Bob's bio background
39:00 Learned law to defend himself from government retaliation
40:00 Set up TCTA
40:35 formed ACTA
41:36 set up WTP
43:00 Civic Education and Action both are needed.
44:00 We compare govt. actions with its constitution and if they are out of line we proactively take legal action by right to petition of redress of greivences to hold the govt. accountable to its governing documents.
45:45 WTP Congress will be carrying this forward.
46:00 Institutionalizing vigilence - devoting the rest of my life
46:40 Tasks: Distribute information about our documents that people are not getting.
46:56 Scrutinize government at every level and confront it.
47:35 Capital Domes
48:30 WTP will build distinctive architecture buildings to accomplish vigilance just as domes signify the center of government.
49:00 People are pationate - use it for vigilence.
49:36 Current project - Contintntal Congress
49:45 History of first one
50:20 1763, relationship between Brittan and colonies began to sour
51:10 11 years of petitioning for redress of greivences
51:35 Jefferson's task of prosecuting these petitions.
52:00 They decided to call the congress just to talk about the situation in 1774.
53:00 We are in exactly the same situation today.
53:35 We need to do the same thing they did today.
54:45 They tried the articles of confederation
54:58 Then the constitution was written - creating the only place for liberty anywhere in history.
55:48 We need to repeat this history.
56:00 State legislatures are invited to send reps as well but will not participate - just observe.
57:00 Every word uttered will be live webcast and transcribed.
58:40 Use this to connect the dots in the minds of people all over the world.
1:00:45 Get the critical mass of understanding needed to follow the recomendations of the CC.
1:01:15 50 websites - one for each state.
1:02:00 Before this year is over we will know just how many people care and the character of our country.
1:02:55 WTP can only do so much. What we can do...
1:05:00 Why did you come here?
1:05:05 Bailout made us come - the people objected and our reps ignored us.
1:06:18 Looking for nonviolent method that may work
1:06:45 I had questions
1:06:50 Judicial remedy was being pursued and failed, came to monitor this approach.
1:07:30 Is Judiciary politicized and corrupt? (Duh yes)
1:07:55 Constitution is obviously being violated.
1:08:00 This is a way to do something.
1:08:30 All the evidence support the claim that the govt. is violating numerous parts of the constitution.
1:09:20 The record shows that the govt. refuses to justify or ammend their behavior.
1:09:49 What is our duty as a free people?
1:10:37 It is every mans duty to protect the constitution.
1:11:20 Are you willing to assist in making this congress happen and reaching out to people?
1:12:00 3/4 of the audience stood in answer to this question.
1:12:30 Signing of citizen action form
1:12:44 Break (cut)
1:13:10 The redress of grievence IS an accountability clause. (We also have one in the second ammendment.)
1:13:39 How do we know what was in the minds of the founders when they wrote this clause?
1:14:10 Magna Carta - 1215 note that this is different from the more commonly seen 1297 version.
1:15:30 Section 61
1:16:40 Allows people to take the property of the barons accountable for making redress if not so redressed within 40 days.
1:18:20 King James example: Popes refused to read freedom of religeion proclimation - but the king put them in the dungeon. They defended with the arguement that they were petitioning the king for redress of greivence - the jury let them go.
1:19:25 Setpember 1774 Phillidelphia Continental Congress was called.
1:20:50 October 1774 Congress passed act to get Canadians to sympathize with their plight
1:21:22 Journals of the Continental Congress page 107
1:21:30 Act Quoted: says we have right to withhold money till grievences are redressed.
1:22:40 Jefferson quote from letter to Lord North
1:24:40 Declaration of Independence spends 3 of 5 pages listing greivences.
1:25:05 the capstone greivence of the Declaration.
1:26:30 States started adopting their state constitutions after the Declaration was signed.
1:27:00 New Hampshire Constitution quote Article 10 Right of Revolution
1:28:44 Most important sentence in the Constitution
1:30:00 Any right that is not enforcable is not a right
1:30:55 10 law review articles published on the right to petition for redress of grievences
1:31:20 A citizen sent a letter that caused all this.
1:32:00 Supreme court note on redress of greivences.
1:32:46 two of these reviews are really good.
1:33:00 Prof. Akhil Reed Amar - Yale Law Journal The Bill of Rights as a Constitution
1:33:17 Prof. Gregory Mark - Rutgers University The Vestigial Constitution: The History and
significance of the right to petition.
1:33:30 Until 1830 people were participating in their government - you always got an answer from congress
1:34:27 What changed? Southern congressmen passed a gag rule against abolitionists.
1:34:55 Took J. Q. Adams 8 years to get the gag rule repealed.
1:35:45 Rights of free speech, press, assemblage, drived from the necesity to protect the right to petition for redress.
1:37:35 We and lots of others have been petitioning for redress of grievences. All of this is documented on http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/
1:38:00 1995 Mexican Peso petition
1:38:25 Judicial doctrine of standing and its abuse
1:42:40 1999 Kosovo bombing
1:45:50 1999 IRS questions by Joe Banister
1:47:20 Geoff Metcalf interviews Devvy Kidd and gets Joe Banister's attention.
1:49:15 Invited congress to a meeting to answer Banister's questions. CSPAN covered it.
1:50:10 Tried it again in November.
1:50:40 Petition served on congress and president with delegates for all states in April.
1:55:13 Try again in June.
1:57:23 Washington Times Ad
1:58:00 USA Today Ad
1:58:50 David Cay Johnson calls about hearing on ad
1:59:36 witness list for hearing on ad is closed to Bob.
1:59:50 Walk around IRS building 7 times and ask for interview.
2:00:00 Witness list was closed reminder - Went to hearing anyway.
2:01:00 Witness on stand suggests the committee answer's Bob's questions - they ignore her.
2:01:45 Hunger fast
2:03:30 Lawrence Linsay writes a note to convince Bob to stop the fast.
2:04:00 Roscoe Bartlett helps Bob connect to the government - sets up meeting.
2:06:00 911 interrupts plans
2:07:00 Set up pay-per-view system to webcast meeting - government backed out. Meeting went on anyway.
2:09:30 Iraq War Resolution - Henry Hyde says "events have overtaken the constitution"
2:13:40 Petitions are treated as depositions.
2:15:20 November 14th, Served 4 petitions at once. FED, Patriot Act, IRS, Iraq Resolution
2:18:40 Other petitions: Gun control laws, North American. Union, Immigration laws not being enforced, Computerized vote counting, AIG bailout
2:19:00 Lawsuit and restraining order on AIG bailout.
2:22:00 Closed doors meeting called and congress blackmailed that evening to bail out AIG. Paulson asks congress to authorize $ transfer.
2:23:19 Another lawsuit (last September)
2:23:43 Decision just rendered recently - lack of standing of course.
2:25:00 Our capstone greivance
2:26:00 Is Government obligated to respond to a petition for redress of greivances?
2:26:10 Can we withold our support in taxes until greivances are addressed?
2:26:41 Stare decisis
2:28:36 Smith vs Arkansas
2:29:30 Minnesota vs Knight
2:31:33 Judith Rodgers writes decision that stare decisis does not apply
2:33:12 Supreme court denies case
2:33:50 Leaves us with no choice but a Continental Congress
2:35:00 Electoral process cannot solve this problem.
2:36:00 AIPAC
2:36:50 Our rights are not dependent upon a majority vote - they are absolute.
2:38:00 States and Federal Government are intertwined and comprimised.
2:38:30 Corporate American and Corporate Media will not help.
2:39:00 Continental Congress will happen this year.
2:39:40 Questions on Continental Congress
2:41:50 Q: How do we all get on the same page?
2:42:08 Rocketship analogy
2:44:00 Solving problem politically just wastes our energy - this is a constitutional/legal problem, not a political problem.
2:45:30 We must somehow channel this energy.
2:45:45 Idea came while on the road to Jacksonville - Jeckyl Island
2:46:12 The creature from Jeckyl Island
2:47:00 The story of the FED in short.
2:50:00 Get the leaders of all the constitiutional/conservative groups to agree on the idea of supporting the Continental Congress - meet at Jeckyl Island 3rd week of May.
2:52:00 Train # 97 from New Jersey
2:53:20 Q: Article 5 issue - 750 calls for a convention from the states have been issued but congress refuses to call a convention.
2:55:11 Q: Why are you not in favor of calling a convention by congress?
2:56:00 A: How will an ammended constitution gain anymore respect than what we have now?
2:57:30 Take a vote to see if we should keep discussing this question.
2:59:16 Announcement by me about this recording and transcription
3:00:30 A: We don't have time for that approach.
3:02:00 Fine we can both pursue our courses.
3:02:40 Congress refuses to call a convention - clarification.
3:03:20 Steve Pidgeon chimes in. TARP, International currency, FSB, Nationalized GM, Banks, Insurance, Supreme court is not making constitutional decisions and is gutting the bill of rights.
3:04:30 A lawyer intends to supplant the constitution with international law within 30 days.
3:06:15 Natural Born Citizen issue demonstrates how our movement is cutting itself to pieces.
3:06:50 Rocketship analogy - we can have multiple engines working together.
3:07:30 Tea Party situation
3:07:40 Bob now thinks he understands the question.
3:08:24 The Continental Congress would have your issue on the table as well.
3:09:16 Barak Obama violated federal criminal law so he can't hold office.
3:09:43 Q: How will order be handled in the congress?
3:09:50 A: Roberts rules of order.
3:10:25 Procedure for nominating and electing delegates.
3:11:40 50 state websites
3:13:20 Q: What about Obama's elegibility as a redress petition? (NBC issue)
3:13:30 A: You asked, here's the answer
3:15:00 Interrupted
3:18:05 Took out an Ad in the Chicago Tribune - An Open Letter to Barak Obama asking him to make his birth certificate public along with other info. - no response.
3:20:40 Audience member comment on redress of grievance.
3:21:00 Steve Pidgeon opinion/input - courts are corrupt
3:21:31 Bob - true story - Leo Donofrio case
3:22:30 Today Show - Pete Williams talks about Donofrio case
3:23:10 Democracy - founders rejected it. There has never been a democracy that didn't commit suicide.
3:23:40 Q: How do you fund this movement?
3:24:00 A: Low overhead and donations.
3:26:00 Applause
3:26:20 No financial angels. All small donations.
3:27:10 IRS has audited the operation.
3:28:15 Q: What entities are we addressing? Dejure vs Defacto Government. Is entity bankrupt and if so does it apply?
3:29:00 A: Any act of congress repugnant to the constitution is null and void.
3:29:30 A: IF this is true, then have them tell us and we will deal with it. Otherwise assume things are normal. Silence is admission or fraud. Natural rights are not nullified.
3:30:15 Q: What if our rights are nullified?
3:30:40 A: Its right here in the document.
3:31:00 Steve Pidgeon: Userpation happens regardless of bankruptcy. Sovreign law is not bankrupt.
3:32:20 Government doesn't like bad press.
3:32:50 Lets say the congress says we withdraw our support - if 15-20M people do it, the government will have to pay attention.
3:34:20 Photo on parade magazine that stuck in my mind. Sympathy immediately went to the people due to that picture.
3:36:10 Q: Suppose we get people to withhold their money - what about the government printing money?
3:36:36 A: Lender security will make inflation option inviable.
3:37:07 Philander Knox
3:38:10 How it works. The FED lends it into circulation. The income tax pays the FED. So no tax income kills the government's money source.
3:39:50 86% of FED income comes from personal income taxes.
3:40:24 Official end of meeting
3:40:41 My closing remarks - thanks for your patience!

Principles In Liberty 35

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Later this year delegates representing the People
of the fifty states will convene as a national assembly to publicly debate our Government's abuses of the Constitution and to consider practical strategies which can bring about compliance with our Freedom documents, not
only in our government at all levels, but in our individual lives.

The Continental Congress 2009 will be an undertaking of historical importance as we follow the example of our Founding Fathers, to gather together and discuss the state of our Nation to restore the Light of Liberty.

Attend a public meeting in the Seattle area to learn more::

Date::

April 8th 2009
Place::

Room 045 in the basement of the Electrical Engineering Building
Time:

7pm - 10pm

note that if we have an overflow crowd, we will meet in room 125 of the same building. Signs will be posted for you if this is the case.

An MP3 recording of this meeting will appear in an upcomming podcast here (if we don't have some kind of technical problem).

Bob Schulz will be telling us about the purposes and reason for this historical meeting and letting you know how you can help our country to retain its heritage of liberty.
These meetings are being held all over the country - don't miss this rare opportunity.

Introducing Bob will be Mr. Stephen Pidgeon, a nominee delegate to the convention and a freedom loving attorney who has been featured numerous times in this blog.

For more information click here.

Click here for podcast of the meeting